Does the gun run OK or is it failing to go into battery during live fire? No lube should be needed on RSA. It's always good to close the loop when a problem is discussed. I check the recoil spring from time to time the first way Vincent mentioned. I am doing my Armorers class this coming week and planned to bring up the question. Everything is right in the world of Glock again. Building a V2 soon. What Argyle said sounds about right. Can also try downloading the magazine by one round. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. You should buy one of these if you don't already have one. Timney should be a little more straightforward with their instructions. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. Then run it like you sole it and it will work fine. The gun has about 11,000 rounds through it. I am still useing the stock recoil spring and striker spring. I really couldn't say because even before I shot the gun I changed the connector. Is there something specific i should look at on the mags? try firing it. Hopefully that's all it was. Something he has seen in the field. Haha). In addition, if you just had the slide (and / or frame) refinished, there is an excellent chance you will need to shoot some rounds to get the coatings thinned out in the right spots. It's working fine now. If I sling shot the slide it works fine but I can't remember any of my other Glocks having problems getting them to go back into battery while riding the slide(when dry firing). Your previous content has been restored. it looks like the spring doesn't detend far enough , then doesn't pushes the slide into complete battery. I gave it a little more oil than normal and seems to be getting better. Could be too long and hitting the extractor bar/spring thingy and not letting the extractor get up over the case rim. Hope you were able to get yours sorted out. I'm in California), but then it stops going forward just short of going into battery. The plunger spring somehow got turned sideways. Just got my slide back from being milled for dp pro and does not go into battery every time. I noticed while shooting that sometimes the slide will not return back to battery 100%. Glock slide not going into battery, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK-5Fw3yjcM. The Barbie dolls are mine. I am shooting my handloads right now it is 124 but will go back to 115 once this batch runs out. Any ideas on what the issue might be? Paste as plain text instead, I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. I'm guessing if the OP was shooting reloads this may have been the problem. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. The tools. Just to make sure that it wasn't something trigger related I threw the old serrated trigger assembly back in and it does the same thing so I put the new smooth one back in. Its light but mushy. I can swap the sli. Also do you have another 17 handy? Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Just file a little, test, file a little till it isnt happening any more? If I let It slam shut there is no problem. Put ammo in from the same box into my 92A1 and had no issues. I filmed one handed just so that I can get it on video. can your extractor move freely? This allows me to use my loads (in 9mm, I'm usually around 3.4 - 3.7gr Titegroup under a 124gr JHP) and the gun runs flawlessly. are you certain that everything is installed properly? Haha. If the firing pin did not drop then chances are that is the issue. This, in all cases with any new firearm, is a fundamental error. While dryfiring; with trigger depressed, when I pull the slide backwards about half way to reset it, the side won't go into battery. I couldnt be happier. Just curious as to what Glock said. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. While you're at it, give the drop safety button a good buffing as well. releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. Yes Glocks are pretty darned easy firearms to work with/on and, because of this, they are easy to make mistakes with as well. Just wanted to point out that you can limp wrist with both hands on the gun and if everything is stock like you said, and you truly believe it has only been fired once, I default to user error. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. If that doesn't fix it, take the slide apart in the rear (you can find a YT video of how to take the back plate off) and make sure the springs on the firing pin, extractor and firing pin safety are in their correct orientation and not deformed. I have not stripped the slide but I'm sure I could figure it out if the issue is there. One mag in particular was the worst. Do you have a Glock Armorer orange endplate that allows you to see the striker trigger bar engagement?. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The only reason I switched to be honest, especially with primer scarcity. I still want a few more range trips before i start carrying it daily again but it seems we are on the right track. first 50 rounds about 20% had a bulge in the casing at the base of the bullet, causing the slide not to go into battery. I mostly shoot 147gr Federal American Eagle. Did you try having someone else shoot it? Its light but mushy. There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. Powered by Invision Community. Is it safe to shoot? Upload or insert images from URL. 2. the Trigger spring may not have been re-installed properly causing the sear to hang when the slide tries to return to battery I just noticed that in my previous post that the word 'Spring' sprung out of the post. I dont have any aftermarket parts in it. Your previous content has been restored. I have used them in several Glocks and found them to give a light pull while also giving a crisper break and feel. Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. I couldnt be happier. Give your new G19 some good lube on the rails, tabs and the barrel before shooting it again. The simple thing seems to be that something did not go back together right. buddy19 Pull out a round that chokes the pistol in the manner you are describing. You must log in or register to reply here. Lord, make me fast and accurate. I am pretty familiar, but I work with a Glock Advanced Armorer and even he is a bit stumped. There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. I had a problem like that in my G34 when I was shooting it. Pasted as rich text. first off, your slide internals are not installed correctly, the metal should be showing on your depressor plunger and not the rubber and spring and it looks like your missing a pin? Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! Let my aim be true and my hand faster than those who would seek to destroy me. If the problem gets worse that would be another indicator. When I say it won't go back into battery I mean when I hand cycle the slide and let it down easy. I am sure it has to do with some of the mods I've done. I stripped the entire frame and can't seem to find the issue. Or has it been an issue since purchase? LW barrels are drop in, but they really are more of forced fit. It may not display this or other websites correctly. No need to clean, just add lube. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. I'm kinda an apartment dweller with more Barbie dolls than tools (they are my daughters. moved the trigger spring up on the trigger bar. We also have Glock related articles like Tools Used . thats one of my fears. Kinda weird. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I have to say that with a little tuning my Timney triggers run like no other Glock trigger I have owned and they are really a game changer for Glock pistols if you look closely at how they function! Thanks for the suggestion. To eliminate grip issues, have you had anyone else try to replicate the issue with a different box of ammo? The first suggestion comes directly from the troubleshooting section of the Armorer's manual. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. Oct 20, 2013. Oh its not a logical move. If so, look for interference or binding during feeding. If this checks out 17 pounds is for 40 S&W. My Glock 21SF threaded barrel sucked for the first 100-200 rounds fired, but once it wore in it has been very good. If you have a weak spring, the slide won't go back into battery if you slowly let it move upwards against gravity. This is a brand new firearm and before you fired even one round down range you took it apart and modified it thus you have no baseline performence to know what the firearm was doing before you "improved" it. have you considered maybe tossing the Timney in the trash and going back to the trigger youve used for the past 11,000 rounds and using that? Not throwing shade on your loads just trying to eliminate a variable. I checked and it looks fine. A bit off the Timney topic, but you might try a Lone Wolf connector with the Overwatch trigger. Its the archer not the arrow i know, but i was immediately more accurate with the timney. So let's make sure we understand this situation. Unlike aftermarket the factory connectors are true drop in and usually dont need adjustments. I appreciate any help or tips you folks might have. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Is this normal with these mods? If you can get it to be smooth with a clean and consistent break, the pull will still be 5 to 5.5 pounds. I sent 100 rds down range today and no problems. By I guess it's best to keep a couple spare recoil springs for the G26 just in case. If that doesn't work I would also suggest installing a heavier recoil spring and a heavier trigger spring. -Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria, This is a decent video to check out to double check. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I'm going to investigate your suggestions. You should seriously look at the takedown lever. I just made the switch to CO from Production with my 34.5 MOS. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. Ok, then 2k rounds isn't outside the realm of possibility for the spring to start failing the spring test. Maybe he did something to the slide? Clear editor. 17s and a 26 but done here, but the methods should be the same on the 20. I am making sure not to ease it forward. Break it in!!! I will let everyone know what I find out. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. I'll do a detail strip soon and see if I find anything out of the ordinary. Things to note on a P80 is that the rails are sometimes not within spec for earlier models. Ive played with the trigger a good bit and its still a glock trigger. Upload or insert images from URL. Have you made a change in ammo or reloading component lately? If you need to smooth the face on the cruciform, I've found that a super fine file works best. Got the second trigger for the 34.3, dropped in no problem. Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I have a couple Dawson and Henning magazine extensions. I know a few guys who shoot sigs and its starting to feel like Ive been trying to make my gun perform more like theirs. I noticed this after a cleaning. What do your used primers look like? I'm not sure if you have the stock FPS spring or not. Any Glock armour out there that can give me some advice? UPDATE! The problem is when the slide slams forward. is your locking block seated correctly? In using it, ive experienced several failure to fires. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. I'm wondering if cerakote got in the extractor channel and gummed things up. Clear editor. The slide stops with the top bullet in the magazine stuck against the feed ramp. I'm assuming the recoil spring isn't the issue since it's only been fired one time. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. Im a little ahead of you on this path. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Pics to come soon. After replacing all the springs and detail cleaning everything with no luck, I was eventually told to replace the extractor. This may sound crazy but if you or a buddy have a tac light slip it on the rail and try firing again. I bought a Suarez milled RMR cut slide for my Glock 19 Gen 3 and if I pin the trigger after a shot, it almost never goes back into battery, which makes sense, but sometimes when I shoot correctly and don't pin the trigger it still doesn't go back into battery. If not HELP PLEASE! Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Glock 19 w/ LWD threaded bbl not going into battery with trigger depressed *Fixed*. I was not really paying attention to what he did. Assuming you called Glock, how did they respond to this issue? Another dumb question is are you intimately familiar with taking the gun part and putting it back together? It had 2056 through it. It will keep the gun just out of battery when reversed. JavaScript is disabled. No reason to leave the plantation because the Timney would not work out in your Glock. 1. Is this how it supposed to function? But about 1-2 rounds out of 100 it wouldnt quite go in to battery and Id need to tap the back of the slide slightly to seat it (started off at like 3 in 5 rounds). Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. This is only going to be used at the range. It seems like it gets caught on something when you hold the trigger back, like to test the reset, and then when you release the trigger the slide eases forward on its own. I noticed that sometimes when I shoot, it will not go into battery (cycles fine otherwise) until I release the trigger. Clear editor. There are too many to quote, so I will just address the points. You cannot paste images directly. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. Matter of fact, I have a couple of triggers from Charlie Vanek that he used a Lone Wolf connector in that he had tuned up. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. Sorry about that. What ammo? A couple weeks ago I installed a Timney Trigger with the red return spring. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. If it would close unless you let the trigger forwardthen it fails the test. I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. It has a Scherer 3.5 connector. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. I'm wondering if it could be a defective recoil spring? Shoot the crap out of it. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. I have a brand new Gen4 Glock 17, which the only "upgrade" I have done is change the connector to a Taran Tactical one. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. Maybe ne messed something up in the slide. A couple thought on the trigger- if you work on the sear engagement, proceed with caution. My G21 Gen 4 would do the same thing from time to time when it was brand new. Everything else seems to be working fine. the sig comment was really a non sequitur. and Mrs. America turn in your guns' - I would have!". The triggers arent nearly as drop in as theyd like to make them out to be. My brand new Glock 19 Gen4 does the exact thing. Or vice down the slide (use wood or thick cardboard not a bare vice or you'll mess up the slide) and push the frame forward toward the muzzle as hard as you can. Tapping on the magazine or back of the slide gets the round to chamber. I will say that I just set up a new Zev Glock 17 with RMR, and my usual loads ran the gun just fine, but (without checking) the Zev slide seems lighter than the OEM Glock one it replaced. Have you tried it with the factory barrel? 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