We got to pray. And there was just this push against a public rebuke. So I asked the other elders, I said, I need to repent. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. And I got it. Wow! But for us not to act would be unbelief. It is grounds for separation but not divorce., This view is popular in fundamentalist Christian circles. Nah Gary, thats just typical cat behavior for you, with or without Kenneth Copeland. And I thought, well, I got to read the letter. It didnt sit right with me when I heard about it, that the church was suing you, and the Mahoneys, and the Bryants. Maybe if the shoe was on the other foot and the men were the ones being abused we might hear them singing a different tune. It was a large elder board. Right, so now you have this meeting that ends you know, Tuesday night meeting that ends in the wee hours of the Wednesday, February 6. He wasnt bringing it to the elders and through a discussion with a couple of the pastors, chose to give it to the elders, which we were thankful for. There would be no Roys Report without Judson University. Hes a large imposing man. uterus or clean out a womb after a stillbirth (because these treatments are labeled abortions, and even that word brings out comments like yours). Ive looked back at that email thread, Ron Duitsman who was the elder board chairman, resigned that day. And so what Id like to do is just rewind a couple of years to fall 2018. Whats the point of arguing the point, you know, like, okay, youre gonna say you dont remember that part. It was so much easier to read and understand. That would be acceptable teaching. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. I remember that too. So the topic of you know, among other things, the topic of the meeting that night on the agenda was to go through the letters to look at the charges and to walk through it and decide, does he meet the qualifications of an elder? She also previously hosted a national talk show on the Moody Radio Network, called Up for Debate, and has worked as a TV reporter for a CBS affiliate. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. I certainly am no Bible scholar. That was really wrongdoing at Harvest, would be to repent. And so I was pulling into the garage, and I knew I knew, as soon as I pulled in the garage, you know, I was, I was gonna go drive up to whatever floor and go to the meeting. So walk us through the drama of that weekend, James McDonald trying to save his job. Whoever said the dumbest thing had to take off an, Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a pattern of sinful behavior, James MacDonald is preaching at Generation. But one of the circumstances hes talking about, hes talking about something specific where Id stood up for him in a meeting years ago. And again, youre one of the people who actually apologized for that. Thanks for a thoughtful, educated, godly response. So far, I feel the leadership of my current church embodies this well. And then if you could, please share the podcast on social media so more people can hear about this great content. 2. That was a very common part of how Harvest approached things like that. Ron Duitsman, Chairman of the Board, who agreed to fire James, now appears to be out there, saying that after James got fired, that the elders were were spinning what happened in a false way. So were in the meeting. I dont believe God makes mistakes when creating us a certain sex. Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? And we got to a Saturday meeting then on the ninth. But James McDonald, he did not like to fly with the commoners, from what I understand. And I just remember my first feeling, you know, just honestly, relief. TED also reported that MacDonald's church Harvest Bible Chapel was $65 million in debt. So thats why I think its so important to get the truth out there and to just keep speaking the truth. Great! She sends it to me and I wrote it. Only Gods opinion is what counts. Ive listened to the entire recording. (We're a church of around 4,000 members & regular attenders.) I totally get the emotion that you must have felt because I felt it, too. None of my sources said it was wrong. Honestly dont to this day. James MacDonald and His Earlier Attacks on Julie Roys. Thank you for loving the Church and the Lord God Almighty, to take the hard but righteous way rather than the hard way. James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 14, 2021. There was a whole discussion about whether he was repentant and I said, I dont know, hes not repentant. A Christian leader, according to 1 Timothy 3:3, should not be "greedy for filthy lucre.". (Julie Roys) Eight years ago, prominent author and pastor, John MacArthur, strongly warned the Moody Bible Institute about its association with now-disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald. Its so interesting. And I said, Listen, I get it. Can you say what was in that letter? He knows! What Happens Now? And I remember talking to another elder and I looked at him, he was almost in tears, saying, I cant believe were not going to do what Gods word says. Well she finally called Julie Jezebel Roys I invited Julie to appear in a public forum before and interested audience and answer for the many many lies she has told about me and my family as well as her bullying of anyone who opposes her or stands with us. pretty rotten.. Dan, thank you for being a humble man of God. If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of God, and Proverbs, etc. Because again, that was one letter that never got published and the contents, other than what Ron Duitsman said in his recent video because he actually referenced that letter. And its to warn people, right? Literally more than two dozen people. The Roys Report is a Christian media outlet, reporting the unvarnished truth about what's happening in the Christian community so the church can be reformed and restored. So Rick was, in effect, the Assistant senior pastor. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. But according to a recent email by MacDonald, hes a victim of defamation by an envious childand needs your money to rebuild.. But before I dive into my interview with Dan, I just want to take a minute to thank the sponsors of the Roys report, Judson University and Marquardt of Barrington. Yet he notes that only a small number of former listeners responded positively. Others, who stumbled by the public deception sent many hateful words.. We dont know how much the top people at Harvest make. These were people bringing charges against an elder. This wasnt anything else. Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! How come church leaders and male congregants are always beating up the women with this particular Scripture but no one ever (to my knowledge) addresses the husbands responsibility to love their wives as Christ loved the church? But I think it was And anyway, hes fired. Pastor James will provide answers in upcoming featured video posts. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Were supposed to approve this budget, and we dont even have a line item. And I know it was a battle. And I checked my voicemail. Jacob Ross, all the credit card that James used for personal expenses. ( was spent) That seems pretty straightforward. 1) Julie Roys. First he used to walk up and down the isles and second it was a bit more exegetical than primarily exhortation based and those dynamics flipped. Gary, I dont know whether its the way way down or the way back Id have to reread the letter, but I mean, they stopped and went to the DR,. I mean, I got exonerated rather quickly. Its phrased to make you feel morally superior. Judson is a top ranked Christian university providing a caring community and an excellent college experience. Guest Bios Show Transcript Spiritual abuse has become an increasingly hot topic, as more and more stories of bully pastors and hyper-controlling, Guest Bios Show Transcript After years spent in an abusive church, how do you heal? And that was the day that Mancow Muller aired these excerpts. to Rick Donald. Thank you. Why is that? And I actually requested the letter from Sandy, because Sandy had shared some things with us about what she had seen. Yeah. I had been investigating Harvest for months. Julie Roys October 8, 2020. Why is it important to you to let people know what really happened? Im sorry, before a so called board.removes a man of God they must first consider the fruit of his ministry. I knew letters were coming to the elder board per First Timothy 5. Well, you know, we laugh about it. Well, Dan, like I said, on an earlier podcast that I had with Mancow Muller, I was hoping to be done with James McDonald and reporting on Harvest months ago. And I was muted on my phone. Hi. Like Tullian Tchvidjian, he would be a great salesman. And I was still on the board. She was a late comer to those of us who had been exposing MacD for a long time. That would be my word to Ron Duitsman. And when I look back at it, thats what I think. MacDonald adds, Of the more than 4000 Change Partners once faithfully supporting our efforts monthly, there are now about 150the remnant from which we seek to rebuild. He then invites people to send him gifts. Divorce is a civil remedy that is necessary when there is abuse, physical, emotional, financial, or even when people are incompatible. On January 7, 2019, Harvest elders announced they decided to drop the lawsuit against Julie Roys and four other individuals. How much do you make? And he conspired with these staff to bring these letters because they all just were out to get James. He was in Walk in the Word studios apparently, and said some really vile things, including, you know, joking about putting child porn on a computer, joking about me having an affair with a Christianity Today editor, which has no basis in fact whatsoeve. A strong woman with a stronger husband will become an unstoppable, gracious, and capable woman. And to hear that, its still got to be pretty tough to stand up to that, or at that point where you like, now I know the truth, Im moving forward. There were elders and influential families that spoke against Moses in the desert, God destroyed them and their families. You know, they asked him as an executive committee member and the elder board chairman. I knew what the topic was. You know, while while I was an overseer, I didnt know it. Its come to this. She declined. Later that night, or first thing you know, into the wee hours of the next morning, the communication was out to the people of Harvest, and it was over. Ryan Visconti, the Arizona pastor platforming discredited celebrity preacher James MacDonald is attracting attention . Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. SMH. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. Who were all shameless self promoters. She said a survey of 20,000 women for her book, The Great Sex Rescue, found that when men make the final decision in the marriage, even if they consult with their wife first, chances of divorce increases 7.4 times . And we had consensus from everybody in the room that James McDonald was not qualified to as an elder and that his employment at Harvest Bible Chapel was over. Yeah. And this is this was this was hard, but at the end of the night, we talked through it, we shared things from the letters. James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, who's a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. I remember praying before the Harvest Elgin campus as a garage, and its a former corporate space. On February 13, the elders announced James MacDonald had been fired . According to Harvest Bible Chapel pastor James McDonald, former Moody Radio host Julie Roys and bloggers Ryan Mahoney and Scott Bryant published and helped publicize false and damaging financial . And welcome to the podcast. Tell Harvest Church board hows the fruit now? Jesus help us. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! And I know its cost you personally. I mean just absolutely devastating stories and, and feeling the pain. I know a lot of people look at this. We will talk through it. https://biblehub.com/hebrew/898.htm bagad (treachery aka abuse) is used FIVE times in Malachi 2:10-16!!! And her being in my house and literally shaking as shes recounting. I know James McDonald says it was a conference call. And learn how MacDonald almost escaped being exposedand how six scathing letters that revealed MacDonalds true nature almost failed to reach the elder board. Very interesting discussion. I did hear from one after I reached out to him because we had another connection with another organization that hes a head of. And whats so tough in this whole thing is that there are wolves among the sheep. And I, I look back at those meetings that I was just describing, Julie, I dont I dont say this lightly. Its more of a social teaching of extreme patriarchal churches to protect and promote the power structure of who is God-ordained to be in charge. You dont know how I got ahold of them. But that is my hope. I was there at HBC & witnessed it. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? And and its sad to me other than when they did finally, the former elders apologize for the lawsuit that was brought against me. But it was dark. Its not being nice, polite, or inoffensive. My spouse and I and many others went to college with James in the eighties in Canada. Shame on you for reading scripture! @jamesmacdonald. Were just talking a minute ago, you know, the emotion and the weight and the relief and the sadness, and all those things are true. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Because Julie, I knew that, even if Id gotten the chance to read it in front of Harvest, which would have been really hard, but would have been healing to people. So this is going to be a fascinating podcast. James MacDonald (born October 4, 1960) is a Canadian-born evangelical Christian pastor, television evangelist, and author. I did not cover my iniquity. Maybe not as profoundly as somebody whod been involved so long, but it was powerful. Theres 30 men in the room. Just finished my post on clarifiers that will precede the deception lists. And there were a number in the room who were looking at I Timothy 5, thats for those who persistence sin rebuke them in the presence of all so that the rest may stand in fear. I knew I had to do it. And lets just, for people who dont know, tell them who Rick Donald is and the position he held and his relation to James McDonald. He is not a pastor. Judson is located on a beautiful 90 acre campus just 36 miles northwest of Chicago. To donate, click here. So quick to forgive and people were giving me hugs the next night. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. The Roys Report has over 78 articles dedicated to MacDonald and/or HBC, many of which were written by Roys. Yeah. In October, Harvest along with lead pastor James MacDonald filed a defamation lawsuit against the author of the World article, Julie Roys, for "asserting false allegations" during her eight . And eventually, and I know you send them with a lot of safeguards, so they couldnt be forwarded. Hes talking about James McDonald, but not calling him out by name. The leaders were brought together. We knew what we knew what we were going to do. And this still disheartens me, because the people of Harvest, who we were supposed to be overseeing at that point, we were silent on that weekend, because we couldnt come to an agreement about what we would do. And there was a voicemail from one of the pastors at Harvest, in a really sort of pushing for me to sign that put my name to that. And and Im still feeling it and Im still hearing from people. No, Julie Roys did not open the hood on James MacDonald, although she in her own hubris would like her audience to think that. Dan was one of the elders who fired James McDonald. I appreciate elders (Hebrews 13:17). Julie Roys lives for her anti gospel, anti authority, man hating bias - even partnering with shock jocks like Mancow Muller or worse. Makes me sad and understand why his life went out of control. Come out of her, my people. So those letters, and I just, I had to thank you, Dan, because those letters may have never reached the full elder board had you not push the issue. So thats, thats February 5, 2019. On Thursday, the seventh, I got a text from one of the elders who said, Call me if you can before such and such a time. Had they reached all the elders at this point? So for Jim McDonald to say that he didnt remember like, Im not buying it, right? I remember talking and saying, guys, were all going to give an account to the Lord one day for what were doing in this meeting. I just thought, yeah. His support of Kari Lake shows that he supports her lies. Those are simply other examples of posts about controversial issues. Okay. And from the video that he recorded with James, it sounds like the spin is that James was actually guilty. But to tell people they have to stay in a situation of violence, trauma and harm, or return to it, this is not a core tenet of Christianity. Youre, youre characterizing it correctly. I knew that I wasnt going to win any arguments in the room. Although as soon as, pretty much after Mancow aired it. Great! Marin, And everyone who stayed just drank the Kool-Aid. Julie, are you saying that you support trans mutilation/murder of pre-born children/and are against conservatives? Guard your heart and keep it diligentlyfor from it flows the content of your life. Rick Donald said that that would make us the judge, the elders, if we had the letter. And I remember, Julie, I was in that meeting that Tuesday night. For narcissists, attracting attention is the point. And theres Ephesians 5 about exposing the unfruitful works of darkness having nothing to do with those. Because your article seemed to conflate all these things. And at the end of the night, we looked around the room, we had talked through it. Mine havent offered any blessings, but at least they havent eaten my extremities while I sleep. Patient, kind, not self-seeking. Rick, Donald actually had talked to me after the meeting and said, how much that meant to James. It was a four hour meeting. Im sad for his fall. The airing accelerated the timeline. Do you expect ANYONE to say yes to your question. According to an independent audit of Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. And so I felt relief. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. For more information on Marquardt Buick go to buyacar123.com. The 8 Best Julie Roys Podcasts. And and again, I got out of this like so unbelievably easily. I had all the letters at that point. One is, I dont want people to give up on the church. And I sat and prayed. He would probably be wildly successful. And we would be loved, it would actually be a loving thing for us to do. Well, and I remember, I remember this whole thing, because Im getting bits and pieces from different sources about whats going on and whats happening. Roys detailed evidence from former Harvest elders, employees, and members that . And they were praying in earnest this entire time. #JRgossipslut James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 15, 2021 And you know, shepherds, I think of John 10, right, the the hireling runs away, the Good Shepherd stays. His sermons changed from adoration of the text to little postcard messages. . Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. Visconti wins the Internet! So I mean, again, this was round. And she immediately said, Ill write a letter. They said no, for various reasons. The elder board is still in the dark. Yeah, yeah. To myself, I said, and do our job. Because when you report on this for months, you feel the pain of the people that are involved. I called him. Again, Dan was one of the elders who confronted James back in 2012, and then got excommunicated from Harvest. Welcome to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. It wasnt an argument. . And I was still on the elder board, we shrunk the elder board that next week down to nine men. And then immediately after I felt that relief, I thought of Betsy Corning. I at least heard of it from somebody by that point. It does. And while youre at it, Id really appreciate it if youd help us spread the word about the podcast by leaving a review. Well, and thanks so much for listening to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. Its impossible to take evangelicals seriously. I payed for you and James. And there was a group and we had two prayer meetings of people who had been former elders, staff people who have gone on the record with me. A man of God who just wanted to take a vacation with his family, has the right to use church money which is his only source of income. Guest Bios Show Transcript Many times, those who have experienced spiritual abuse are retraumatized when they try to speak about whats happened. I knew that there were hundreds of people, probably more, that were hurt that all this stuff happened. But he demanded that he be flown home on a private jet. Im not positive on that. No One Knows. Understandable. Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. I didnt, I didnt argue with him. Then, referencing his arbitration with Harvest, in which he won about $2.5 million, along with all digital and physical assets of Walk in the Word, MacDonald writes: When we won the arbitration and regained access to our teaching ministry, it was in shambleslike a model plane that had flown so beautifully, being returned with report of a crash, when in reality an envious child had dashed it against the rocks just out of sight.. And so she sent me a letter before it went to the elder board. That would have been December I think 18th, 2018. It was really it was a painful meeting, it was a was an eye opening meeting as well though. That this was all a plot by him that he was vengeful, towards James McDonald. My husband really appreciates James McDonalds preaching against my better judgement I told him about the new messagesso we have the Advent message from his Home Church network cast to the TV I had planned to leave the room so I didnt have to watch it I have to tell you he sounds sincere (without wax) I find the whole situation so heart breaking and confusing. A strong woman with a weak husband will become a toxic woman. What what were you thinking? . And that would have been right before you came back on the board. If you find yourself unaware of And James, recently, in this video that he posted, said that there was an elder, in these meetings, he says, its very, very disparagingly who, who was holding his Bible and kept reading scripture. I wrote back to her, and I apologized to her. In June, he posted a picture with 2022 GOP gubernatorial nominee Kari Lake. This story saddens me. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet.. But like you do what that says and the people responded as you hope Christians do. This is this is one of the biggest things elders could do. I dont know how the person who gave them to me got them. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. I think of a few things Julie. Now what we did do is there were probably I dont remember the number Julie. Because I believe in the church. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. And I remember reading through that scripture and reading through Hebrews 13:17, about elders overseeing and giving an account, and Galatians 1:10 about am I trying to please man, am I trying to please God? The Roys Report reached out to MacDonald with questions about the email, which he would not answer on the record. And I looked at it, and I could not read the whole letter in one sitting. Is that an accurate representation? I said, I will confess my transgression to the Lord, and you forgave the iniquity of my sin. I stepped away from my computer a couple of times. Like, I cant believe this. Others as well, who were defending and saying, well, the elders shouldnt even have these letters we had agreed, they go to the reconciliation team. And all of the elders should resign and repent for what they did. Thank you. Marquardt is a Buick GMC dealership where you can expect honesty, integrity and transparency. Just look at King David . Thats even though MacDonalds former megachurch, Harvest Bible Chapel, disqualified MacDonald from public ministry in 2019 for a pattern of sinful behavior.. He teaches that wives should endure abuse like a missionary endures persecution. And at this point, the letters, what had happened with the letters? There were times in the meeting where, you know, I didnt even know what gaslighting was. But so much else not owned. Voice of James MacDonald Believed to Be Featured in Vulgar Comments. We brought up several things from the letters with James McDonald that night, and he was just dismissing everything we brought up. Great! I followed up with this text but Julie did not respond immediately to my request for a comment. You really didnt know at that point, whether he was going to get fired, or resign, or what was going to happen until Mancow Muller aired those vulgar excerpts from this hot mic recording that James McDonald didnt know he was on mic. The owners of Marquardt are friends of mine, Dan and Kurt Marquardt. And in case you dont know, Dan Marquardt was one of three former elders at Harvest, who stood up to James McDonald in 2013, and was excommunicated as a result. But according to a recent email by MacDonald, he's a victim of defamation by an "envious child"and needs your money "to rebuild." "Tragically . Were talking about the difference of maybe a day. I was thrown out of the church we gave our lives to by a group of rogue leaders, MacDonald writes. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. It was a heated discussion about letters and who should have the letters who should read the letters, etc., that night. And that was a big question. Tell me about that meeting and what he did. And I want to help people lead the church well. Had it not been for that recording, I mean, what do you think? We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. My strength is dried up, as by the heat of summer. And they said, I remember Dan telling me that that James slammed his fist on the table. Thats what the weight was. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. 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